79 thoughts on “If we built a new 3rd gen F body spindle ?”

  1. Strength. These have to be strong enough for street AND track use and I don’t just mean straight line tracks. Corrected geometry is also a must.

  4. I have been told there is a company getting ready to release aluminum and forged spindles for third gens.

  6. When will someone do a “Next Level” upgrade for the TriFive Chevys? A C6, C7 or C8 style, 2 inch dropped spindle that you could use with the 500 power steering box and/or a rac & pinion set up. I have a ’55 Chevy and a ’57 Nomad. I feel we are being left out of the conversation and other GM cars are getting the Vette style spindles. I think it would be very popular and would let people like me be able to upgrade to Vette style like handling and braking. If you know anyone making Vette style spindles for TriFive Chevys please let me know.
    Thanks!

  8. Yes make it happen
    I have a ZL1 6 piston calipers and rotors ready for my 3rd gen camaro Z28 Iroc Z
    The zl1 rotors are bigger than the factory 🏭 wheels 🛞

  9. I would love to have these spindles that eliminates the out of date packed wheel bearings for my 92 Z as long I am able to reuse my 1LE brakes and manuel rack and pinion steering.

  11. My wish list in order would be:
    A removeable/swappable steering arm like others have suggested here would be a HUGE plus in order to run a rack or change steering geometry.
    C7 hubs would be great.
    Any way to mount existing C5/C6/Wilwood etc. calipers with mounting holes in the spindle or an adapter bracket like we currently have?

  12. Have you looked into a company like Sendcutsend to produce these? They may be competitive if you are willing to do the welding yourself. Or have them do the cutting/bending and have another shop weld.

  13. I’ve been dying for this. Considering modeling them myself. I’d happily send you $ instead.

  15. I have an ’87 with stock front disc / rear drum brakes. I’d love to have a set of these spindles specifically so I could go with modern wheel bearing assemblies and opposed-piston brake calipers. I’ve been hesitant to upgrade my brakes because I don’t want to retain the old-style packed wheel bearings. If these came out, I’d buy a set (as long as they weren’t too expensive).

  16. Any updates on this? Count me in for a set. Would prefer 1.5 drop and shortened steering arm for rack and pinion.

  17. I absolutely love this and want a set. I am solidly in for a set for my car.

    The options I would like to see are:
    – C7 bearing/hub is a solid win
    – I believe the C6 bearing uses the same flange but it is a little lighter duty
    – steering type
    – stock, parallelogram
    – rack and pinion
    – recommendations of rack travel so we can source the correct rack
    – be able to use brake conversion options
    – Use brackets already produced by you
    – new brackets that support the same calipers
    – exchange program for current brackets
    – we can resell the ones we have
    – drop
    – no drop
    – I prefer this so I can run factory wheels, which is a perk of LS1 and FSL calipers
    – 1.5″ and 2″ seem to be popular

  18. I’d be interested in a 1.5 inch drop version, stock bearing if a sealed bearing is not possible with stock attachment points for the tie rod and shocks and factory width. Happy new year!

  19. I would buy a set if the tie rod mounts were shortened so I could use a power rack and pinion while maintaining the stock turning radius. I have the LS1 big brake upgrade, so would prefer that I can still use it.

  22. I’d put a down payment on a set . I’ve been wanting these with the option to run speed sensors and ABS would be amazing !

  24. Put me in for a set! I’ve been looking all over for a option to run my wheels without modifying the rotors.

  25. I would try to keep the track width the same as stock in the front, or the width the same as the rear track width so those who want can run square wheels all the way around. I wouldn’t cater to those that run wheels from other factory cars, they made choices based on low budget instead of proper offset. They don’t likely have the money to spend on these anyway

  26. So we would need 100 guys to preorder in order to have a them make it. Hmm have you tried going to the camaro forums and the facebook camaro pages? Im pretty sure a lot of guys would want c5/c6 hub style for better braking and more wheel choices. Would you mind if i shared the information there to hopefully bring traction to this

  27. I just want to throw my name in the hat too. I hope you can find a manufacturing outfit that will help you make these soon. I’m very interested in a set of these.

  28. That sucks your not finding anyone to help make these. Makes me sick that you can buy dropped spindles for a chevelle for $320 that take the corvette hub bearing but no one whats to touch the third gen camaros.

  29. Would absolutely purchase this I’ve been searching for a simpler way to upgrade the knuckle bearing design! I need this for my car!

  30. To date I have not found anyone to make these, its frustrating and I do intend to seek out the right outfit, any outfit at this point actually… it is just a let down after being basically ghosted from current suppliers and new approached outfits always have some reason to not take it on. I need a set to test first and everyone wants to build 100 of them right off the bat. I`m working on it just has not come up roses yet is all

    Hi Jae- Sadly no, no manufacturers have shown any interest in making them yet

    Mark= These will use a sealed hub and bearing from any of the 5th-7th generation corvette, they are MUCH better than the blazer hub

    Mario- I have no idea still sorry

    Timathy- I’m sure word will be spread fast once these are rolling, thank you for your interest

    Hi Gavin- Yes stock ride height and it will take the same componets off a already existing upgrade like your 6 piston set up

  32. It would be nice if we would be able to use a sealed hub from a blazer on them cause they aren’t expensive and can find them anywhere

  34. Man, let me know when this goes for sale. I just want a simple steel upgrade. I don’t need billet or aluminum. Scott, reach out to me when it is ready. This is what I have been waiting for.

  35. Would definitely make things better on the front end.
    Will it retain stock ride height and be able to use the setup
    For 6 piston calipers?

  36. Hey Andrew, Yes-
    these will be able to use C5 and all C6 hubs with the ABS pigtail, C7, Gen 5 camaro and Gen 6 camaro hubs as well.

    Jakolbe- Once we get these going that is the plan a 1.5 drop and then we can move toward doing shorter steer arms for those interested

  37. I know this is a long shot. But for the very few of us that might try to take advantage of the wheel speed sensors in the wheel bearings. Will there be a way to use the late C6 Z06/ZR1 wheel bearings to use the wheel speed sensors built in. Or have a hole drilled in the side for the OEM C7 ABS Sensor to be used?

  38. 100% make a drop spindle. As well as fix suspension geometry. Would be nice to finally have a drop spindle so the ride quality isn’t going to trash for wanting it lower and requiring stiffer springs.

  39. These will be bar-stock built, so steel, laser cut and formed / welded. Any kit I offer or have offered we will be able to adapt to these -so no worries there. As for aluminum, I am sure it possibly could be done with some design changes (maybe) but for now I just want to start with something stock and strong, I want a 1.5 drop version after this one is off and running. Right now we just got word that some of the thicker parts will be cut soon so it is moving along, just slower than I and everybody else wanted

  40. Build it and they will come/buy…lol
    I’m all in! Let’s get this done Scott.
    I’m down for a set 👍

  41. I am at a point of ditching my wilwood front brakes, and would like to know if these spindles would be compatible if i purchased one of your front kits.

  42. Aluminum please. Everything else you said is cool too!!
    Let me know when they are available!

  43. Thank you for the suggestions everyone, these are out for quoting and I`m working between the designer and the fab shop(s) to get a number put on these still. As of now they will keep the stock track plus the stacked rotor, so same offset as if you had a brake upgrade already, we are working to get the stock height one done first and get it tested before selling any. If and when that is complete I`m going to go forward with a 1.5 drop version, then we can do alterations possibly like shortened steer arms, so no eta yet but still moving fwd !

  44. Im 100% down for this. If you want to use my car for a test dummy Send a set out. I’ve already got your c7 z51 brackets and brakes on my car. The track width isn’t a huge concern for me since I already have the increase with the bbu, what’s your price stand point and estimated release date?

  45. Can we sign up somewhere for updates on this. I need spindles and brakes asap!!

  47. Love the concept – hope it comes to fruition. I would quite like it if the offset was corrected.

  48. A drop spindle option would be nice, reminiscent of the old Belltech. Reason for this is it improves suspension geometry with lowered cars. A drop spindle has not been available for quite a long time now.

  49. My list of requirements for such a thing:
    – Must be robust for street use
    – Option to buy a drop version
    – Ability to use hubs wheel sensor
    – Steering arm length and/or relocation options for rack and pinion conversion
    – Steering bumps
    – Mounting locations for your brake conversion caliper mounts
    – Suspension geometry improvements if possible
    – Use Corvette hubs
    I understand that not all can done for business reasons but I think most are reasonable.

  50. You have a customer waiting for your new 3rd Gen setup here. Stock height with the C7 hub will work great. Are they going to be available anytime soon? I have a LS7 engine I am ready to drop in once I get the brake upgrade dome to an 85 IROC. The new LS platform will make the 3rd Gens haul the mail. Great work.

  51. What are you thinking pricing will be on the spindle kits ? This looks very very promising and im excited honestly

  52. Hey Guys, so to answer a few questions..

    a 1.5 drop version is on the drawing board and yes it will feature the C7 hub bearing

    these are being designed so we can bolt just about any brake kit onto them, so FSL should work too, along with PBR, and Brembo. adapter brackets mounted to the bearing mount holes will allow this

    Shorter steer arm is on the list but wont be right off the bat, once we get going we can implement this

    PA spindles I cant help with,sorry. I have never had a set in the shop to examine / inspect

  54. I’ve been wondering about this same thing for awhile. Even considered trying the 5th gen spindles

  55. Is anything wrong with the pa racing spindles? I’m thinking of getting them, with the new billet hubs I just ordered here. It Does say 2” drop, but looks to be a solid upgrade. Anything I’m missing? Or will I be stuck with no solid brake option other than that one set of strange they say is compatible? Thank you for the information.

  56. Small amount of drop and option for shorter steering arm for rack and pinion steering would be amazing. Definitely C7 Hub and brembo mounts.

  57. Drop spindles are hard to find for third gens nowadays, if you could figure out a drop spindle with upgraded bearings, I’m sure they would sell like hotcakes. I would hope you would have an option that could work with the FSL calipers and Vette rotors, because that’s what I already have.

  58. .300 to .335 could be handled with a wheel spacer from those with custom wheels.

  60. OKAY Q ? for you all
    Going over a few ideas prompted me to post, how important do you feel keeping the stock track with the brakeupgrade installed is ? As it stands now when we upgrade a factory spindle the track grows by the thickness of the new rotor hat so approx .300-.335 depending on the rotor. So most anyone who has upgraded their 3rd gen brakes has accepted or accounted for in someway to allow for this. At a fork in the road on which way to go…on one hand we have probably 50% or more of 3rd gens out there with modded brake systems already who have dealt with the track increase from that brake swap, on the other hand keeping stock track width WITH the new brakes does sound desirable too but will possibly play havoc on a set up that is already existing…whats your thoughts?

  61. Essentially that is what we are doing but with a much better bearing, the steer arm on the Blazer spindle is actually placed the same as the 3rd gen so really you only need to get rid of the upper ball joint mount and have a strut mount there in it`s place, feasible? not for making more than a handful, both of these spindles are getting harder to find and both are cast so they do not take to welding very good

    Jae in the 88 says:
    April 11, 2023 at 9:53 pm Edit

    Im thinking why dont we take a 4wd blazer spindle a 3rd gen spindle am cut the tops off and weld the 3rd gen twisted strut mounting holes to the blazers and go from there… just a idea to bounce around

  62. Im thinking why dont we take a 4wd blazer spindle a 3rd gen spindle am cut the tops off and weld the 3rd gen twisted strut mounting holes to the blazers and go from there… just a idea to bounce around

  63. Hey Morgan,
    We have been working on the design since conception, the std height one is proving to be more of a challenge, where the 1.5 drop version the designer rendered looks real promising. With permission from those involved I would like to present our idea to you and others who are interested but we have just a few obstacles to clear yet before I would want to show what we have. I suspect we may have something to present here in the coming week as we are just exhausting all possibilities to create these as strong and as reasonably priced as can be. We are closer than farther is all I can say right now! And I am looking forward to seeing parts cut to get these tested !!

  64. There are alot of interesting and exciting ideas with these suggestions. My question is: what is the time line for production availability of these new spindles?

  65. Fixing the ackerman- I’m not sure how much we can move it but if we shortened the arm we could move the tie rod further outward (eliminating the bend in the steer arm somewhat and bringing the tie rod more inline withe the ball joint) I’m not sure we can get ever get perfect being a front steer though.

  68. So, basically, you’re saying you want to build the spindle used on the DSE-Z that DSE decided not to build and market 1 inch drop built in, 3rd gen offset, C7 bearing hubs, set up for aftermarket brake mounts. Since DSE never built it, I’d love to see someone do it. Price will keep most people from being more than tire kickers though which is unfortunate for the thirdgen market.

  69. Spindles for SKF Xtracer hubs at heights to duplicate the 1LE and standard brake hubs to match our current brakes.

  70. To add more:
    A see a few people asking for a hub that would allow 4th gen and Corvette wheels to be used without spacers.
    But I think that’s flawed logic.

    Someone who is using $150 Cast China Corvette wheels on their car, is also not the person who’s willing to drop big $cash on billet spindles or the like.

    Perhaps that sounds harsh, but as someone who sells 3rd gen parts; the price range and target buyer is always something only mind.

  71. A way to run 4th gen or C6 wheels without spacers would be awesome. Something that will work with oem style lower arms and coil jacks. More steering angle option for a drift build would be sweet too

  72. I’d like to see a billet spindle with fixed ackerman angles that GM screwed up.

    I’d also like a small amount of drop built in maybe 1in. To avoid having the a-arms pointing up or level on lowered cars.

    Having a spindle that’s stronger and lighter would be nice (like ur billet hubs I run)

    Having an adjustable steering stop would be nice.
    Some OEM cars I’ve seen have a bolt you can adjust in and out for that

    Bonus points for a modular steering knuckle as well. The drift guys are adding crazy welds and mods to shortened knuckles. If you made.a spindle with a stock lenght and shifter lenght, you’d capture the drift crowd.
    I’d imagine having a separate steering knuckle would lower costs as well by making the footprint of the last being machined much smaller.

    As far as the hubs and bearings.
    I’d like to reuse my Billet hubs.
    But as long as an upgraded hub had the same track width as a stock 3rd gen, I’d be ok with it.
    I have about $7,000 worth of forged wheels and tires and I’m not exactly gonna buy a new set just to run better spindles haha.

    As far as cost, I’d be willing to spend about $3,000 on a set if the benefits were there.

  73. I like all the other replies, one thing I’d like to add is. Could the steering arm be removable like an old school muscle car. That way you could swap to a different length one to work with a rack.

  74. Dito what JT said I hate running 2 inch spacers in the front with fourth gen wheels !!

    Also have you considered a drop spindle like bell tech used to make ?

    Really like your products we have your brakes on all our 3rd gens

  75. I would love to see a spindles with a c5/6 hub on it will built in offset so no need to run wheel adapters/spacers when running 4th gen wheels or aftermarket wheels with an offset near that. and also second at stock ride height thanks.

  76. Sounds good Mark, we are looking to do the stock height one with a hub bearing first. So check back in for updates this is in motion

  77. I’ve been considering a big brake upgrade for a while now but I would rather upgrade spindle to new and lighter rather than modifying the stock one. That said, Racecraft does make such spindles but only 2in drop, and already having a 2in lowering kit on the car, I would prefer to have a stock replacement. I would also like to be able to use the center caps on my American Racing wheels.

  78. Yes, that exactly- thank you for your submission, a drop and sealed hub bearing would be a nice update. One inch drop? Having a sealed hub bearing on the third gen would open a lot of wheel options where that stock rotor extension intrudes with several center caps on more modern designed wheels.

  79. I would want to get rid of pressed bearings and have a hub and bearings all enclosed in one like a blazer xtreme front hub and maybe a drop spindle option

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